The Kardashian-Jenner siblings are among the most famous celebrities in the world today, thanks to the huge success of “Keeping Up With The Kardashians.” While many acknowledge their mom and manager, Kris Jenner, as the person who helped steer their successful careers, some fans believe her to be a “toxic mom.”

As their “momager,” Kris’ business acumen is undeniable. She helped grow the Kardashian-Jenner brand, as well as the individual careers of her children.

Capitalizing on the fame they gained from their hit reality TV show, Kendall Jenner went on to become the highest-paid model, while Kim Kardashian and Kylie Jenner launched their own businesses, with the latter becoming so successful that she’s now named as the youngest self-made billionaire by Forbes.

While Kris might have helped launch the careers of her children, there are those who claim that she is a “toxic mom” to her family. In a post titled “Kris Is toxic!” a Redditor details how he came to conclude that Kris’ actions are horrible at times.

“I’ve started watching KUWTK from the beginning since it’s on Hulu,” Redditor u/alskdjfhgtk wrote on the site. “I’m in season 4 at the moment and there have been so many moments where I’m just amazed at Kris’ actions. She’s horrible sometimes.”

The Redditor then went on to give a few examples of why he came to the conclusion. For instance, Jenner already knew that Scott Disick was cheating on her eldest, Kourtney Kardashian, but decided not to tell her.

Kris also kept Khloe’s wedding a secret from Caitlyn Jenner, known as Bruce Jenner before her transition. There was also that incident where she also spiked Bruce’s coffee, and accidentally Rob’s as well, with male enhancement pills.

The Redditor was also appalled at how she seems to be constantly “hiding things and lying to her husband.” She also had this tendency to make “things that should be about her kids center around her,” such as giving long and sentimental speeches during baby showers, weddings and other family events.

However, another Reddit user named turquoise-tortiose defended Kris’ actions by saying that they’re probably just part of a script. “I mean, I feel like a lot of it is made up for the show (or at least dramatized),” the KUWTK fan commented.

“Especially the male enhancement drug storyline. If she was really trying to secretly drug Bruce, she wouldn’t have done it on camera, because he would have found out when he saw the show,” the Redditor continued.

The Kardashian-Jenners Scott Disick, Rob Kardashian, Kim Kardashian, Kourtney Kardashian, Khloe Kardashian, Kylie Jenner, Kris Jenner and Kendall Jenner arrive at the grand opening of Kardashian Khaos at The Mirage Hotel and Casino on Dec. 15, 2011, in Las Vegas, Nevada. Denise Truscello/WireImage